Fresh off yesterdays town elections, the buzz that is all around is all about who will be the next town council chairman?
I would like to hear from you blog readers on who you think will be the next chairman or chairwoman and your reasoning behind your pick..
Also I wanted to congratulate all the winners in yesterdays election and to say thank-you for running and your commitment to the town of Derry for the runners-up.
Please keep engaged into the political scene in town and let your voices be heard.
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Brent Carney
He always seems prepared
He thinks through the issues
He brings forth thought out proposals to try to actually get things done
He seems to consider both sides of the issue at hand
He has proven that he votes for his constituents and for what he feels is best for the town
He seems like a level headed councilor
Can someone post the results? For all of the offices?
Coyle. Although I disagree with many of his views,I believe he will run an organized meeting.
What a plant!
Choices in order on ability to run the council:
1. Coyle
2. Metts
3. Carney
4. BC
5. Wetherbee
6. Fairbanks
7. Benson
To bad Konstant didn't run for council.
coyle for chair
Lets let Fairbanks be Chair. Everybody else can wear duct tape over their mouths and she can wear black and an armband!
She could screw up the meeting if she was in the room alone.
1. Metts
2. Carney
3. Chirichiello
4. Benson
5. Coyle
6. Wetherbee
7. Fairbanks
I'd personally like to see Metts have it again. He has done a great job at controlling the meetings. He may not even want it again, but I'd like to see him in the center seat.
How can Coyle be chair. He works in the public sector sucking the teats of the Londonderry taxpayer like John Burtis does in his retirement.
You can only have a chairman that knows what it is like to make a living in a real jobnot as a public sector lamprey.
And Janet? (Giggle Giggle Giggle)
Now that his boss has been re-up'd, no doubt that DJN will fade into the sunset as far as campaign/finance disclosure.
KEVIN COYLE BECAUSE HE IS NOT AFRAID OF THE GOOD OL BOYS WHICH METTS IS A PART OF AND ACTED LIKE HE WAS NUTRAL BUT HIS TRUE COLORS CAME OUT AS TIME WENT ON AS IN LETTING STENHOUSE THE TA NOT ANSER THINGS ASKED AND NOT LIVING IN TOWN .BC WHY DOES THIS GUY NOT HAVE TO LIVE UP TO HIS CONTRACT AND I THINK IS THE GUY TO PUT HIM IN HIS PLACE AS A TEN YEAR RESIDENT AND PAYING EIGHT THOUSAND PLUS IN TAXES I WANT ANSERS TO THIS PROBLEM STUFF LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN AND SHOWS WHO IS WITH THE GOOD OL BOY CLUB METTS AS CHAIRMAN SHOULD HAVE GOT TO THE BOTTOM OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS SOUNDS MINOR BUT WHAT ELSE AS CHAIRMAN DID HE LET SLIDE GUYS LIKE HIM ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM THATS WHY COYLE WOULD BE A GOOD CHAIRMAM BECAUSE NO ONE IS PULLING HIS STRINGS BC WHY DOES STENHOUSE NOT HAVE TI LIVE UP TO HIS CONTRACT P.S.NO MORE CLAM HAVEN FOR ME LOST RESPECT FOR GOOD OL BOY METTS
I agree with Anon 2:48. Carney is the only one on the council that acts that he is not part of the usual "Tribe of Shemp" that comprises town governments.
Sorry Brian, but "pay peanuts, get monkeys."
Carney has clear political aspirations in a bigger arena. WE can only hope that the lowbrow mouthbreathers on the council can control themselves enough to not drag him down.
It's the night after the elections...nothing has changed. You want civility? You want professionlism? You want these men and woman to lead us? Well stop with all the childish banter I see on this blog. You voted these folks in now let THEM make the decision as to who will be what this next year on the council. Grow up and stop with the attitudes
bc, why do my posts not get posted?
twice this has happened, in a row. are you censoring?
Anon 2:48, please explain how you see it that Brent Carney represented his constituents and the towns best interests when he voted to approve the most recent DFD $880K money grab?
So Brent considered the issue and decided to pay them even more as literally the entire country was cutting pay, hours and benefits in this time of economic crisis.
OH!, now I get it. You and Brent felt we weren't paying them enough already. Say, do you suppose his flip-flop on this shameless DFD pay grab had anything to do with his new job being offered?
Sure, Brent's level headed alright with taxpayers money.
Hey Anon 2:06 AM,
Are you in charge? Are you my mother? SHADDUP! Blogging is about OPINIONS, moron. You do not like what I said, rebutt it or shut it. But do not blame civility or professionlism. There has been no real leadership in this town for decades. You think that 200+ idiots voting for JF to continue her frequent rants every Tuesday means anything is going to change? Are you waiting for the mothership to return at 2:06 am and pick you up?
Hey Anon 7:25 AM,
Congrats!! Your response explains just about everything anyone would ever care to know about the likes of you.
But given that you asked me some questions I feel a charitable obligation to answer them before work:
Q1: Yes, I am in charge.
Q2: No, I am not your mother. (sounds like a line out of the last book you read.)
Q3: SHADDUP! ? mother ship ?? moron??? LOL!!!!
Q4: I am often just returning home for my 5 hours sleep before I go to work again, you dimwitted houseplant. I work two jobs to support my family and to pay the excessive taxes that result when Brent and the others give the DFD employees another $880K, shameful.
Finally thank goodness there are two councilors that seem to get what is going on in the economy and are not willing to sell out due to personal political opportunity.
Brian thank you for the equal opportunity to present my point for point response to this dimwitted house plant with issues.
Hey Anon 8:04
That $880K will look cheap if your house catches fire.
Just to be clear Anon 7:25 AM is not Anon 2:48 PM - original reply - he/she seems to be replying to a different post.
As for the DFD vote - I don't necessarily agree with Brent on that particular vote. Although he at least explained his reasoning on changing his vote and seemed to have given it some thought.
Taking his overall work on the council, his preparedness and actual attempts to bring thorough and thoughtful proposals backed up with data forward to the council along with his willingness to work in a civil manner with the others on the board is the reason I mention him as a candidate.
I think Metts has done a pretty good job too and has tried to maintain a level of decorum on the council too. Wouldn't be upset to seeing him back in the seat for another go round if that is allowed.
Anon 8:04,
You're not alone. Most of us have to work two jobs just to pay our taxes.
Ah yes, 7:25 you just don't get the civility concept do you? 8:04/2:06 has your number. I'm especially impressed by your regard for your fellow citizens of Derry; you know the superset of the "200 morons" you refer to. You attack JF for "rants" and yet you are foaming at the mouth. Take your meds and forget about the election. Others among us will move Derry forward as you spew.
anon 8:50 what does paying the excessive money to derry fire have to do with a house burning down?
your inability to answer this exposes what a stupid position you have put forth. this type of deep reasoning may fly among some in the fire house and its outside hangers on but not in the real world.
BRIAN STILL FOR A RESPONSE ABOUT NOHOUSE I MEAN STENHOUSE ABOUT HIM LIVING IN THE TOWN OF DERRY SEEMS LIKE HE IS RUNNING THE COUNCIL INSTEAD OF THE OTHER WAY AROUND LIKE AT COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN METTS ASKS FOR ADIMISTRATORS REPORT AND HIS RESPONSE IS I HAVE NOTING HE SHURE HAS THAT RIGHT THIS GUY IS LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK U KNOW THE BANK IN ROCHESTER RESPOND
Coyle for chair; Metts for pro tem
Ah Yes Anon 10:28.
Let’s just “move Derry on” by ignoring the problems that have been plaguing us from the past. The problem is that rank amateurs, frequently with of overaggressive self adulation, bubble to the surface and taste a little power for the first time in their miserable lives.
They run for office after being picked last for dodgeball or never being asked to the prom and all of a sudden they are given responsibility for us all.
There is no test for competency or capability.
This election yet again proves that if you can get 200 dolts to vote in a popularity contest you too can be in a position of authority and be the big person you have always fantasized about in the mirror.
The result is a small and feeble minority have leveraged their positions on the rest of us.
The American way dictates this. Ain’t it great!
But the rest of us have to suffer the consequences of decisions based on their own egos, long held grudges and misplaced beliefs instead of conviction, knowledge or wisdom. Nobody allows a surgeon to practice on them. Why should so many Derry voters allow amateurs to practice Town government for all the wrong reasons? Oops, I'm ranting again, let me go back to being a houseplant.
get taxation under control and we all can live in derry. get organized in 2009
yes 8:20 you are ranting again. Take your meds, take a deep breath and explain the amaturism you refer to. Are you suggesting that we make Council seats fulltime paid positions? Do the good old boys represent professionalism in your mind.
You seem to be "full of sound and furry, signifying nothing."
Anon 7:09
I am not furry.
Anon 10:07
I have great sympathy for those in financial straits. Working 2 jobs cannot be a pleasant thing. But your comment is similar to the drubbing the economy is taking from the media.
We all make choices in life. We alone direct our futures with effort, persistence, timing and luck. Some do better than others and compassion (and social programs) was created as assistance to those in need. But unlike the whiners who lost fortunes in various scandals ( umm, what part of 20% returns every year over 20 years with zero risk did they not understand ?) there is always a downside to decisions, whether good or bad. The world has never promised previous generations a kiss on the foot. In the past, people accurately assessed their means and lived within them.
To those born since 1950 everyone is a winner, everybody gets a trophy , BMW’s and Rolexes for the masses, 3000-4000sq.ft houses for all! Who cares if they can really be afforded. Borrow, borrow, borrow; buy, buy, buy
91+% of the US is working. At best, economists suggest that 95% employment is maximum the US economy can generate. Yes there are some individuals that do not register in these figures but THE VAST MAJORITY of the U.S. (and by proxy Derry) is working. That you and the previous poster are working 2 jobs, while unfortunate, is in no way indicative of ‘most’.
7:34 sorry for my fat figures. Spell check missed that error. Mia Culpa. I have no idea if you are furry but your words certainly signify nothing.
OK 7:57
$11 Trillion has just evaporated and we are "spending" another 1 to 3 trillion to get out of the whole.
No problem, Derry can "roll the dice". Let the good times roll!
Anon 7:09
Being much less furry now let me try to be as articulate as a houseplant can be. Yes we need a professional administrator to rum Derry. The years of a never ending troop Tin Pot dictators, personal agendas, vendettas and 2 camp mentality should end. Voters should vote an administration who then has a set period to fulfill campaign promises or not be elected. Unprofessional pomposity, incompetence and the effect of the armchair quarterbacking from backbenchers and sycophants will be rendered moot except during elections. To be clear: this is not May Casten redux, for it is hoped that at least some lessons were learned from her tumultuous tenure or at the very least much of her support has likewise moved on to God’s little green acres.
Wow.... no matter what happens in this town, it always seems to come back in some way or some how to the Derry Firefighters. The DFD is mentioned 5 or 6 times in this particular blog line.... with Blog title being "Who will be the next.. Derry County Chair?". Well, we might as well find one of those overpaid DFD Union Thugs to be the chair!! From what I see here and what gets plastered all over the newspapers, maybe it's time to just suck up and make them the rulers of the town! It's so BLATENTLY obvious that this is what is happening so why not just surrender to the reality and let it be so! Chief Klauber for Council Chair!!!
Here's an excercise the disillusioned should try... breathe in... breathe out, breathe in... breathe out. The contract was signed by a majority of the councilors who were voted into office to do what they felt was best for the town. The majority of the town councilors felt it was a good contract and they felt it was the best thing for the town. Agree or disagree, that's what happened.
Deal with it. I work 2 jobs and my wife works 2 jobs. We both work full-time. We pay our taxes just like everyone else here. We put our support behind those who we feel will bring the most to our community and I, along with my wife, are satisfied with the decision of the council regarding the "Horrendous and Insanely Outrageous" contract that was ratified by the council for the DFD last year.
$880,000 over 3 years???? No pay increase for the first year????? Not even a cost of living?? THREE YEARS?? And people think that is a Rip-off!!!!! That's a damn bargain if I ever saw one!!! People who want to complain and complain and complain about that should go into their job on Monday and tell their boss that they do not want a raise at all next year. Tell your boss they can keep the cost of living increase for next year and you'll be just fine with that. I'm sure those who feel the need to continuously complain and regurgitate this crap will have absolutely no problem with doing that.
Since that's not going to happen, why not try and get this. Let's have the DFD shut down operations for an entire week. Just one week. That will save MORE than enough to compensate all the whiners who continuously complain about overpaid and over-contracted firefighters in the Town of Derry. No DFD service for an entire week. Someone from Derry calls 911 and no one shows up. Well, I guess someone would show up eventually, maybe another town, but I'm quite positive that a 15,20,or 30 minute response would not be objectionable over a 4 minute or so response if we could save a couplea bucks. Everyone will be so happy that they saved SO much money. Well, maybe those who didn't need help that week would be happy... or those who didn't get in an accident... or those who didn't have SOMETHING happen that they needed some help. Those people would just suffer but everyone else would be happy.
I guess that's all well and good as long as it's not MY family that has to suffer. If the complainers want to take their part of that money and sign a form that says they will take care of their own safety, I'm all for it. Get your ADT petitions out and everyone that doesn't want the service can sign up and save all that money!!! If you can get it to fly then all of you can FINALLY be happy! I'll gladly pay more to keep my service if you don't want it.
Just remember, that day when something goes horribly wrong when you least expect it, you have no right to call. You're on your own..... but you saved money so I guess it all equals out in the end. Hopefully, you'll save all that money and you'll never have to call. That would be terrific.
I thank you BC and the rest of the council who voted for the DFD contracts and made the right decision. Now, let's do the same for the DPD patrolman's contract. Those guys work hard to keep my family safe, your family safe, and everyone else's family safe. Whether they agree with the bill or not.
While we're at it, I guess we could include in that ADT petition a clause pertaining to police also. Might as well sign that away too if the nay-sayers want to save every single penny they can. I'll pay a little more to keep that protection thank you.
In fact, to make things as simple and as cost-effective as possible, anyone who doesn't feel the need to have the emergency services that are provided for them by the town could just have 911 disabled on their phone. They sign the form and then they get no service. They save the money and we all live happily ever after.
Utopia!!
BRIAN WHY NO RESPONCE FROM U ON THESE QUISTIONS ABOUT STENHOUSE AND OTHER THINGS ASKED AN THIS PART OF YOUR BLOG
2:21 Since you were kind enough to overlook my furry/fury typo we should not dwell on your "rum Derry". Let's move on to other things. Sounds like you are in favor of a city form of government with an elected mayor; is that right?
1:41 AM... You seem confused. You confuse the DFD with the union and the union with the firefighters. You create false dichotomies confusing dissatisfaction with the contract with a desire to go without fire protection. You make stuff up--please show me where people are referring to the firefighters as a group as Thugs. You seem to assume things that are not necessarily true. Because the voters voted someone in does not mean they are acting in the voters’ best interests. They may be acting in their own best interests.
Because someone provides a desperately needed service at a critical time does not constitute a blank check to take as much as they want from our pockets.
Yes, many of us think that paying firefighters far more that they would earn in other communities is a rip off. But who is ripping us off? Not necessarily the firefighters! They simply have better negotiators; good for them.
To summarize, the problem has not been with the firefighters or their union but with the weak (grossly incompetent) negotiating team the town fields and with the majority of the town council who rubberstamp contracts that poorly serve the public. Why they do that, we can only speculate but some insight was gained from the campaign financing discussions of the recent election. Does the union give donations directly to Town Council candidates or do they usually come from “individual firefighters” or via “Better Derry”?
Anon 11:02
Right on Buddy!
My point to Anon 7:09 is that we have amateurs running town government that have nowhere near the expertise to deal with professional unions, real estate investors like Wal-mart and business development. The most disappointing part of the issue is that they think that that do. Dealing with million dollar budgets and negotiating over coffee with the fire chief of 25 years ago is completely different that the mega budgets of today. Hell, even a houseplant knows that Anon 7:09. (hope you can control your “fat figures” {sic.Fingers} over that one! BTW there is no spell check on Brian’s Blog).
Janet Fairbanks negating the Wal-Mart opportunity because she wanted “mo money” is absolutely ridiculous. She should have never been able to speak with any greater authority that a public open forum.
It is time to upgrade the government in town (maybe by not being a town) using professionals not amateurs. Let the small minds exercise their power fixes over the garden club or further politicizing the conservation commission.
Instead of spending countless time, effort and energy discussing the locations of fences, what constitutes the administrators residence and debating the value of the just excuted DFD contract( add this list up over the last 30 years)lets make changes.
WE can investigate the core involving the charter and find out how to sweep our well meaning farm league government out to pasture and elect and empower an administration that serves Derry.
Hey Danno,
DO YOU YELL WITHOUT BREAKS IN RUNON SENTENCES OR ARE U JUST 2 LZY TO RITE LIKE U R NOT A MORON?
Anon 3:05 and 11:02
You do realize that in order to bring in highly qualified people to handle multi-million dollar budgets and negotiate with top-end businesses that the Town of Derry will have to pony up a lot more than the 100 g's they pay the employees now.
Further more, since residency is also required for council positions, you'd be assuming you can also find highly qualified professionals to run for Council seats.
THERE BAAAACK!!!
just as everyone knew they would be. grab your wallets!! hide your purses!! the DEDC is on the agenda for the next council meeting and they want YOU to bail them out. Derry's very own version of TARP. our local acronym is BARF, "bankrupt association relief funding."
anyone want to bet that they will be pitching for more tax payer money?
oh course they are. look, they took the time to slap together the propaganda piece that ended with a reference to the now famous "drug dealers and hookers" line. they were even conveniently, but not mysteriously, (wink and nod to rick) placed on the agenda when they were with the expectation that their candidate and head cheerleader, none other than joel olbricht, was going to be swept in and seated on the council by then by campaign contributors he could not quite recall?....lol!! sure joel. but that too did not work out as plotted.
despite the attempted spin, they failed to explain the acceptance of the long payback and invisible ROI on ash street, lest you work off a twenty year plus model.
think about it, someone wrote and approved the script on that show they have been airing. just the kind of dirty laundry any biz would want to hear about when considering a move or expansion into a community, don't ya think? .........i have to admit i was not aware of "drug dealers and hookers" in derry before the DEDC made the community aware of it on the channel 17.
the alleged averted "apartment building" cost savings arguement the DEDC is so fond of putting forth is pure BS. NO project of that type could or would ever have borne the site prep costs as they were.....PERIOD.
but you see, this is exactly why the DEDC has time and again proven themselves out of their element when presenting the community to any outside "professional management." who the hell can take them seriously with this type obvious lack of judgement, tact and gravitas? try as they may, you just can't polish sandpaper. it's time for the DEDC to stand alone, change it's staff or go away.
3:05 Sounds good. We agree on a number of points including the need for spell check on this blog. I'm tired of having to drag my rants into Word so as to not murder the English language. (sometimes I'm lazy.)
By the way, if we look for professionals we should expect to pay them like professionals who run large operations. Someone just said it well:"pay peanuts, get monkeys." Look at the administrators we have had.
Anon 9:33
It's not a secret that are and have been drug-dealers and prostitutes in Town for years.
Heck, we just had a shooting in Derry over the weekend that was most likely over drugs.
I know everyone wants to think Derry is a magical place that doesn't have high crime, but it's not the case.
Every community has drugs and ho's. If they don't get caught, no one knows about it.
Mr.Burtis, I have a question for you. Why don't you get your own blog and stop taking up so much space on this one?
Mr Anonymous 10:19,
Why don't you pay attention and be honest? As any careful observer can attest, Mr. Burtis always signs his name to the good sense he puts forth.
Mr. Burtis is not the problem anonymous. On the contrary, I think it is you and others like you that find your positions indefensible when not so ordinary citizens stand up and speak out.
Admit it, you don't like it when it is pointed out how screwed up and dysfunctional elements of our town government and it's "eminately ordinary" politicians are.
Mr. Burtis should you read this post please keep up the good work. This town has operated in a vacuum for too long. Dirty back room deals with contracts, DEDC, appointments, etc. need to be exposed and then eliminated for us to move forward.
Finally is there any truth to the story that Jack Dowd and the DEDC are pushing a parking garage idea near the municipal parking lot? If this is true, I've one question, are you kidding?
8:34 Yes that is the nature of running large organizations. The reason senior executives make the money they do is that the right person at the top can make an enormous impact on the whole organization's results. In the case of Derry if we were a city, it would have a budget over $120 million I think. You don't want some retread local town manager to be driving that size organization. You also might want to rethink the "live in Derry" requirement. Is making that person "share the pain" worth reducing the candidate pool by 98%? I don't think so. I think we should buy the best, demand great results from him/her, and fire them quickly if they don't deliver.
10:19: Is space on this blog at a premium? Perhaps you tire from Mr. Burtis kicking butt. If you would like a blog where you and the other sycophants all just rave about the potential of 4A and the wonders of the DEDC, we will all be happy to leave. BC just has to say the word.
There is room for all opinions. Please try to keep things as civil as possible.
I wonder if Mr Burtis would like to discuss his past dealings with the town. Has he ever worked for the town of Derry as an employee or a contractor? Perhaps he's another case of someone with an ax to grind with the town???
I see nothing has changed. Looks like the rebuke at the polls fell on deaf ears. Rump Charter Commission (Committee), DEDC Bailout, can additional Exit 4A funding be far behind?
Benson is wrong; you all deserve the scorn heaped upon you.
8:49 You have no idea what a stupid question that is. Your fishing expedition reeks of innuendo. 8:49 “Have you stopped beating your spouse?”
17/3/09 8:49 PM
The man obviously has to much time on his hands. Work? He's on disability (though looking mighty fine and able )collecting a check from another community. I wonder how they felt when he left? Mr. Burtis, why didn't YOU run for office? That would be a productive way to so call straighten out this town... Derry might not attract the right businesses, but it sure has attracted some colorful characters. I wonder how tolerant other communities would be?
No, Benson was RIGHT! Disagree on issues but do not make personal attacks. Dimock takes personal shots every week. I think its high time someone took him to task for it. Benson did it in a dignified, professional manner.
Burtis is too long winded. My ancestors came over from England, etc. just like everyone elses. We all have a history. We do not recite it at a council meeting. He is turning a mistake at a local cable station, staffed by volunteers, into a cause so he can stand on his soap box. The threats that he will take it into his own hands if the council does not cooperate should be called the bluff that it is.
10:32 what volunteers might you be referring to? I see paid professionals who at a minimum screwed up and at a maximum misused town assets to silence the opposition and influence an election.
Does freedom of speech only cover short winded people?
Some of you are far to willing to silence people. Note NW's request to eliminate one of the public comment sections of the Town Council meetings.
(Is anyone having a sale on Jackboots?)
10:02 The Council fiascos squandering taxpayer money, driving people out of town, gutting our home values do not seem to bother you as long as they are done quietly, professionally and out of sight of inquisitive minds. The fact that the 4A EIS cost roughly the equivalent to a lifetime’s earnings for some taxpayers seems lost on you. So what, we have more taxpayers to milk. No, its way past time to show some emotion. It’s time to be mad as hell.
BC How about a new thread just focusing on the DEDC Bailout?
BC, Are the people at TV17 paid or volunteers?
Look out for the black helicopters and the jackbooted thugs. They are going to swoop in and muzzle us like Hannibal Lecter. The conspiracy theorists are frothing and fomenting. Such folly.
8:37 (“Have you stopped beating your spouse?”) I don't know what that is supposed to mean? Save your strength and look into old Johnny's background a little. Perhaps you will find that he has had his hand in the taxpayers cookie jar before.
anon 2:56,
They are paid positions. The camera people receive a stipen to do the meetings.. I believe $30 or $35.
Back in the day, it was all volunteer however today we have much more programming and a real nice studio that is owned by the "rate payers".
I will start a new thread on the topic of the DEDC
2:18, of course the issues trouble me . But if I disagree with another, I do not bring personal attacks, such as remarks about their fathers, etc. Lets argue the facts, not incorrect personal dirt.
What is a jackboot?
Mr. Burtis has publicly disclosed that he has served as a firefighter and a police officer. Do you have a problem with either of those professions 4:19? Do you have any additional information to share with us or just more innuendo?
No, 3:20 I was not suggesting conspiracy. When our freedoms are taken, the process will be quiet with your nod of approval.
No need to muzzle us. They will simply put in a light, transitioning from green to red. If you insist on speaking after the light goes red it can become a police matter. See how easy it is? No need for helicopters. It will all make perfect sense (to you).
5:03 A boot associated with the National Socialists (Nazis). Also popular with Fascists and Communists. Great for military parades and kicking in doors.
2:18 OK I'll buy that. Facts will drive them crazy. Let's use facts.
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