It is 8:30 Am on Tues morning 7/14.
Are you all ready to see and hear the organized Mobbing scene for tonights council meeting? I'm sure you will see its stars come out tonight to speak of council members being removed.
We will hear from the same people who have said this over and over again and to make sure their message and political scoring points get the most mileage possible.
I'm sure we will see many members of the ADT group as they are headed up and organized by Doug Newell ready for the cameras tonight. In fact, Doug most likely has his new story line all set and ready to go.
When you get a chance readers, Go to Google.com and look up the word " Mobbing". See if you think that this applies to this group. Let me know what you think.
The sad thing here is that this group has learned that this is how you gain political power in the town of Derry. People in town must wake up to the fact that if this is how you want your town officials to act and operate, instead of focusing on the work that needs to get done, well then, thats what you'll get.
Please don't get me wrong, I understand that the conversation was innapropriate. Mr Benson has apoligized directly to MS Rose and I called to tell her that we never said the word fired or even thought that. It was a tongue and cheek comment that was said in a matter of 30 seconds.
Look I have been a councilor for 6 years and I have seen politics that i believe are above board, which concentrates on the positive, and on the issues at hand. AND I have seen the politics of personalities and dirty politics. I know, what i see. I know the players involved and I know that this town is going backwards.
Well enough said for today... Lets watch to see how tonight goes.. Seriously Folks, the word got out last week at what a circus it's gonna be.
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BC...best of luck at tonights meeting. People seem to have become overly sensitive in our society.
I can't believe people are naive enough to believe that this was some sort of heinous act committed by you and Mr. Benson.
I think it's ironic that people are up in arms about a comment to get someone fired, but are "mobbing" to get two people fired. They are actually trying to do to you both what they are accusing you of doing. What a sad day for Derry...
Toughen up people, pick your battles and MOVE ON! Let's getting back to working to make Derry greater!
Theater Brian, not circus.
Even the hat lady will be there tonight. Dimock is warming up his vocal chords right now.
Yes, the balance of power in Derry will shift because 2 grown men could not wait until the parking lot to yuck it up.
Some little troll will be in her glory. The belle of the ball she never was gets to be the center of attention while the public business goes into the crapper.
Coyle will have that Cheshire Cat sanctimonious smirk, Fairbanks can look principled sticking up for the little guy when she has been looking for a way to kick the 4 (vs. the 3) in the balls for years.
You handed it to Newell/Coyle and the lot. Derry will never advance based on the result of what should have been a public appology of how stupid you both were.
Tonightt the flood gates will be opened and it will take you guys down. There is an outside chance personally you will be spared Brian, but you will have been muted out of relevance.
So all that must be done is the acting.
My recommendation is that you wait until the end to walk out. Give us all a good show. Make sure that you divulge all that you know about how Coyle slithers behind the scenes using his handpuppets, Fairbanks on the Council and Newell in public.
Do not fall on your sword in vain. Expose those making a Derry public spectacle for what they are. Only then do you get some measure of value for your political demise.
What I dont get is that Coyle will be the chief witness to the thing and Fairbanks is best friends with the an Rose...yet they have no conflicts of interest?
If they don't step away from the matter, why, Brian, should you or Brad.
A conflict is a conflict...if they cast votes, you should too.
Meanwhile, the absolute pathetically incompetant press is kissing the feet of those who bring them "stories".
Memo to the press: The word "fired" was never used and the Attorney General did not deem the comment inappropriate...they said that it "may" have been inappropriate. You are the press, folks, words matter.
Over throwing an election....here in Derry?! Over this nonsense?!
Spit on the Attorney General; that office can't be trusted when it comes to Derry politics?! Congrats, ADT, we just made more friends in Concord. It's no wonder they don't take us seriously.
Brian and Brad deserve an apology and a thank you for serving.
As a citizen of Derry can anyone tell me where to look for a group of like minded people who get together and discuss the way the town is run? I'm always hearing of "2 factions" and both seem bad. Is there a third or fourth faction that people trust? Should I just trust the town council because they are elected and blindly follow them? I won't dare talk at a meeting for fear of ridicule.
Brian and Brad
Thank you for serving yourselves. I know you didn't sign up for listening to the taxpayers so I'll just stop right here.
To Anon 11:04 (although I really think you are BC doing his usual and hiding in anonymous fashion)
Brian and Brad are owed an apology???
NH hasn’t legalized marijuana yet so I can’t image what you’ve been smoking. They brought this on themselves and in their usual fashion blame others for their screw-ups.
I didn’t really mean it! Look at all the big bullies picking on me!!!
Derry will never be able to move on until these two are removed from office. I’m glad this happened now so we don’t have to wait until their terms are up to get them out. The only way this could have worked out better would have been if Witherbee was standing next to them and joined in. Although with Witherbee all we have to do is allow him enough rope ‘cause without the benefit of Brian and Brad it will be only a matter of time before he too puts the over sized foot in his mouth.
Yes folks, there may be light at the end of the tunnel.
I say GOOD RIDDANCE!
14/7/09 11:04 am
I guess you must have been the fly on the wall we've been waiting to hear from, thank god. Now we don't need an investigation. Where have you been? You could have saved us months of bc, I mean bs.
I didn't know the attorney general handled ethics, I thought they did criminal. According to you, the AG said the comments "may" be inappropriate. Therefore don't you think the council should look at the ethical side?
shoo fly shoo
At least Derry isn't alone in investigating its Council
From The Eagle Tribune:
Salem official dodges disciplinary action
Selectmen agreed last night to take no action against fellow board member Pat Hargreaves, who was accused of improperly using his authority to influence a police officer. Selectman Mike Lyons said the incident should serve as a reminder of the need for proper conduct from selectmen. "We have to be careful when we act as selectmen,"
That’s the difference between Salem and Derry. Salem looks into the problem and although no disciplinary action was deemed necessary, their Council members addressed the issue and made public comments that they need to remember they are Selectmen and need to act appropriately. In Derry we have the Council President writing letters to the local paper saying the Townspeople need to –“GET OVER IT.”
No wonder this governing body is so messed up.
It was good good to see Art Mclean stand up at the TC meeting tonight. Unfortunately he had May Casten stuck to the bottom of his foot as Mr. Metts has Fairbanks and Coyle stuck to his shoes.
Progress is difficult when some are rowing in their own direction.
But is was nice to see a gentleman of substance and leadership. It is hoped that others on the council took note.
Ok Ms. Rose.
You have had your moment. You looked beautiful tonight.
NOW GO AWAY.
Al Dimmock, High Street.
I expected better of you as you sounded like a broken record of past meetings.
Oh everybody! Im sorry.
AL always sounds like a broken record!
Brian and Brad,
You never should have apologized to Ms. Rose!
Kudos to Art for getting up and speaking. There is a 'silent' majority out there that have given back to this town for many many years. We are not fools...we can see the forrest for the trees.(aka drama)Thank you Art for saying what so many are saying. Brian and Brad...you are both well respected and good decent men. Thank you for your service to our community.
Right on 8:45am
A town employee's reputation and integrity was disparaged by front page articles calling for her firing,with ongoing letters to the editors.A threat was made to her livelihood. I saw no public demand of apologies from her for those attacking her? Talk about rights...where were her's?
Fairbanks and Coyle have a vested political interest in running BC and BB into the ground.
They have now taken this witch hunt into the arena of impropriety where anybody with an axe to grind or scab to pick can come forwards and stop the wheel of Derry town government.
Joel Olbricht proved this point in his complaint last night.
What is next eye rolls, scowls and crossed fingers? God forbid a councilor flips the bird or sticks out a tongue on Saturday morning.
We will end up with only the ego obsessed or clinically insane considering runs for council if this continues.
9:09 Another Brain Fart Resident.
SHE WORKED FOR A TILE COMPANY NOT THE TOWN you moron. Get your facts straight before you open your yap!
You only perpetuate misinformation.
anon:8:52,
Thank-you for your support!
BC,
I was disappointed in that nothing was decided last night. How can we get on with things with this issue sticking around?
Dragged back up at the end of the meeting what happens now?
How does Derry move past this?
anon 11:27,
I can't answer you on this one. Not sure.. Benson has apoligized 3 times already, so lets move on. I can remember another councilor who told a taxpayer to "shove it" in an e-mail and he apoligized and we moved on... I don't remember a circus atmosphere then.. no call for censure, no call for removal. See thats the difference between the two camps I guess. One has an axe to grind.
Thanks for your response and service Brian. Many of us, that Art Mclean identified as the Silent Majority, want lesson learned and progress made.
Sorry Brian, but if you are looking to cut KC some slack, you are wrong on the facts of that one.
KC emailed a lady to "shove it" and VERY PUBLICLY, and I think arrogantly, delclared that he WOULD NOT apologize.
That is the fact.
ADT is the best and this practice of stifling talk at meetings will be stopped soon...
anon 4:01,
You know something? You are 100% right. I forgot that BIG fact.. Where was all of the out rage then????? Do we live in a double standards town?
anon 4:25,
Yes because we all no nobody will be complaining then. right?
Brian it seems that contrary to your original post in which you wrote in no uncertain terms, " i know what i see", that in the end, you did not see anything.
Your most recent post tosses around nonsense like some paranoid patient that "sees baaad political people" conspiring all around you......mobbing is another term you used......here again Brian you proved YOURSELF wrong by suggesting doug newell and MANY adt members were busy sharpening their attack......BUT Brian.....where was the attack?? the circus????? it never came now did it.
So Brian what do you have to say for yourself and your post? try to stay on point and address the question specifically.
The only circus i saw last night was the one whose tent you raised in your own mind, which you let us all in on, with yet another one of your careless factless, political posts.
Benson made a BIG mistake. No amount of BS from you or any of the other apologists can take that away. If Benson has any integrity as his proponents say he does, his required course of action should be clear to him by now.
The longer Benson choses to hang on and the longer elements of this in large part rudderless council
places good ole boy politics above whats "right", the more damage will be inflicted.
So in conclusion, Brian, when will you learn to simply shut-up?? Your foolish conjecture put forth as fact in your original post does not do you or anyone any good.
Brad you alone screwed up, do the right thing. You are wholly replaceable by one not as prone to screw ups as you seem to be. It time for you realize your own words are creating significantly more trouble for this town than you are worth. pathetic.
10:34....Nice attitude and a true example of your mindset!I want to set the record straight, I was referring to Burtis vs Ellingwood.Remember THAT issue? Obviously not!Now who's miss informed.
Anon 4:24
This is not about stifling talk this is about stopping the chronic attacks and complaints from the ADT blowhards that want to have a moment of glory at the microphone then flagellate watching themselves at home after the meeting.
Week after week the same old warhorses, whiners and windbags wheedle whatever ADT/Coyle ask them to spout.
And you are clearly a dopey cheerleader.
What I don't understand is why didn't someone just second Metts' motion to slap Benson on the wrist for his behavior, take a vote (which would pass) and then be done with it? Seems like Metts set up a perfect layup for this to be over yet no one would second his motion. Instead let's just drag it on. Why? Is it pride or just plain arrogance?
anon 12:48
Now there's an idea!!! I am sick to death of all of the political posturing. It is blatently obvious that Fairbanks is out for political blood. She doesn't see that these allegations pale in comparison to her actions.
I agree, perhaps we need to form a group of "concerned citizens" that fight for the common sense so badly needed. We could perhaps petition to form an ethics committee that could be called upon to review any allegations of impropriety. An impartial body. The only problem is how to get an impartial group. Perhaps select people from the voter registry at random and for a specified duration. Similar in fashion to how people are selected for jury duty.
8:56 The problem there is that it defeats the representative form of Government. Look I think the entire TC slate should be wiped clean and we start over. But that wipes out votes taken in earnest. can't do that. But can we have a palace revolt and throw the whole lot out? Here is where Doug, Burtis and the parlamentarians could perform a service and determine what charter loophole allows us to kick the whole bunch down the street. Of course that means the golden bot prosecutor and the dowager queen as well. Clearly that could never happen.
Anon 8:56, isn't it's funny how sometimes people blurt out things that are correct.......but for the wrong reason?
Let's take your post for example. Here you put forth a correct idea; ethic guidelines. But not before you took the opportunity to slam the ONE councillor that has been pushing for this for a number of years i.e. Janet Fairbanks. Wrong person when contrasted with your slam?
Here's something for you and the "challenged faction" to gnaw on, this is an issue that Derry town government will have on its plate in the very near future in any event. Stay tuned.
Wow, Coyle stabbed Metts bigtime today in the Nutfield News. Cheap shot in my opinion. Metts tries to moderate the meetings fairly. He is going to alienate people due to being the chair. Although he leans toward the old guard, he goes out of his way to please Fairbanks and Coyle. he even voted to extend the Benson/Brian investigation discussion the other night when he could have easily voted no.
I think he does a great job under trying conditions.
Anon 5:36- Mr. Benson is MY REPRESENTATIVE, and how dare you and a few others decide the fate of MY REPRESENTATIVE. Like previously stated: we the silent majority are very happy with Mr. Benson and voted for him to represent us. (Unlike Ms.Fairbank, Mr. Bensons does not need to state publically at every meeting that he is representing his constituents) We know he is. So lets forget the Theatrics and move on.
Word on the street this Thursday __(7/16)is that the Benson/Chirichiello "back room-mouth running incident" is still not over. Council still needs to make a finding--a resolution. Metts dropped that ball again. ___as usual.
Kevin Coyles letter to the editor in the Nutfield out today__ (7/16) seems accurate concerning Metts. I hope it gets read.
Hi 9:56. I am not sure I understand how an ethics committee would defeat our representative government. Could you please explain?
10:07...I stand by my statement. She has done and said some pretty nasty things in her time. Just replay some of the TC meetings. Look what she did to Joel O., spreading misinformation.
Sorry, anon 4:01, but YOUR representative is a boob and needs to learn to hold his tongue and stop trying to throw around his self appointed "power". He hasn't done a darn thing for this town other than support the good ole boys. Maybe you're one of them.
5;58
To have a conversation on a blog you must define the issue if you come out of left field. We were discussing BB and BC being hunted over the Maureen Rose issue. You are discussing ( for the first time on the thread) TV 17, which I did not think anybody but Burtis was still thinking about.
Take your Ridalin and stick to the thread.
Councilors Coyle and Fairbanks will continue this indefinitely.
Brian, you and Brad have to take charge and end it.
The problem is that no one is providing direction to settle this. Have you the advice of an attorney not to engage on either your behalf or the towns? Has Boutin advised Metts the same?
I don’t trust Coyle on a good day never mind in a litigious situation and clearly he has his attack ferret; Fairbanks, carrying the water on this. Is there a legal reason strengthening his hand?
If there is no legal reason, what is the holdup in just coming cleaning, walking the town through what happened to satisfy the investigation crowd, be admonished, apologize in the town square, kiss the troll on the foot and be done with it?
What happened, happened.
Brad has apologized. If you need not apologize, fine, let that come out when you publicly recount events. You can’t be indicted for being professionally churlish.
Derry is letting a "gnat" dictate the operation of our government.
If this was my wife (GOD FORBID) I would be pissed and after you stood up like a man, life would go on. I would keep her locked in the basement if she wanted to trot around town as Joan of Arc.
Allowing Rose, Fairbanks, both manipulated by Coyle and the chorus of mental midgets in town prattle on and drag this out gives them what they want: DRAMA.
Stop playing their game, take the pain and get it over.
How great is it to see the power structure shift occurring in Derry?
Finally, the path has been cleared to make way for non-retread politicians to get elected. The days of "old guard" serial blunders are coming to an end. "Old guard political endorsement" now is a millstone around the neck of those that accept them. It's no wonder, look at the constant parade of mishaps the "old guard" have made for decades. You sure don't see the "new guard" making mistakes that involve police reports and AG investigations.
It took a while, but Derry's citizens and stale old pols are finally getting it. By repositioning itself away from the status quo of hare brained ideas, like downtown indoor "parking lots" Derry will create a future consistent with it's potential.
Anon 10:51, ask yourself, what kind of tough guy would even suggest locking their wife up in the basement?
Now do as you are told and "ask yourself" what kind of scrawny assed punk expresses things like you just did? On second thought, Brad and Brian do.
Don't get me wrong, spare the rest of us your response. The only people possibly interested in your utterances are cultural anthropologists.
Ok 11:57
Calm down and let me go very s l o w l y for you.
I was using hyperbole to underscore a point. Hyperbole is a type of figurative language. It is often confused with a simile or a metaphor because it often compares two objects. The difference is a hyperbole is an exaggeration. For example: His feet were as big as a barge. It looks like a simile. It is comparing foot size to the size of a barge. Everyone knows that a barge is approximately 700 feet long. Imagine getting a pair of shoes that big!
Do you understand the concept of hyperbole?
I would not really lock up the Mrs. in the basement!
Next lesson will be the proper use of the delete button.
Anon 12:27, that's so good to hear.... the fact that you would not lock up your Mrs in the basement that is. Far as I can tell, only the anthropologists are disappointed that you may not be the missing link that your post led everyone to believe you were.
I have heard your Mrs. has had to lock you in the attic from time to time due to your histrionic use of hyperbole while attempting to make a point.
But, be that as it may, I hope you are civil enough to refrain from your name calling in the future. The town knows things are tough at the moment for Derry's "challenged faction. " It's only going to get tougher unless it's members evolve quickly and rely upon their brains more and diminishing influence less. The "challenged factions" old guard and their misguided ways are heading towards fade extinction.
It's your choice, change course, go out gracefully or continue to make a fool of yourself as Dowd, Bulkley and Olbrecht, Benson et al insist on doing.
BC- Re: your original post... where was the mob? Al Dimmock getting up to speak is hardly news and George seemed civil enough. Maureen was talking mostly about Brad’s letter to the paper. Seems you are not important enough to mob. That’s very sad.
4:04
I could care less about all that you have mentioned. But I feel no kinship to the morons that you aspire to as well.
That we could abandon both “Camps” is an option for those that can think on their own. Derry is a farce right now because both sides pull with egual force. You are just as bad as your counterparts. 2 wrongs if you will.
And that is why I believe in lesson 2 the delete button.
4:58 Other than name calling, do you have something to add to our discussion? Please elaborate (in your own convoluted way) on the third path for Derry. For example, one side favors exit 4A the other does not. Are you in favor of a 1/2 lane exit or one that goes half way to a connection? How about public comment at the town council? Should it be only people with birthdays on odd numbered days have the right speak at a second public comments session?
I suspect that you dislike the rancor of Derry politics. I have news for you... those are the sounds of democracy. I bet in North Korea there are no calls for investigations of beloved leaders. And there the whispers are not about firing but firing squads.
For most of the last 25 years Derry has been run (poorly) by a group of individuals. Now that is being questioned. Expect a lot more rancor. BB and BC have made it clear that they won't go quietly no matter what facts surface.
9:13
Beyond sounding like a sanctimonious ass (or Doug Newell) you so perfectly articulate the position of the ( what shall we call you; the party that has not been in power for 25 years, “Non-Friends of Jack Dowd” or perhaps “Knuckle Dragging, Mouth Breathing Reactionaries”? Yes let’s go with the latter) KDMBR's.
I dislike the rancor of Derry politics for a different reason.
Because all of those Sounds of Democracy gets nothing accomplished.
Your democracy is when Coyle and Fairbanks muck about and derail anything getting accomplished.
Apparently, the other 5 elected councilors trying to do the job that their constituents sent them to the Town Council to do are a different form of government in your eyes?
If the TC votes the way you agree, it is Democracy. If not, what is it; Fascism?
Investigation, to find out what?
That Benson said it? He did and admitted he did!
Investigation, over an immature, crass joke about Maureen Rose? Does she matter in your eyes that much?
Investigation that serves no beneficial purpose to 99.999% of Derry.
Is that democracy at work in your book?
I could care less of Exit 4A. I think the DEDC is the poster child for good thinking gone bad. I think the Beth Thompson situation is worse. I could care less where our Town Administrator lives as I think the position should be eliminated as part of a new form of government.
But I have yet to see most public comments being worthy of airtime, even on a cable access show. Why do we need more commentaries from a bunch of never-were’s or wannabes that are all trying to be somebody that matters before they die?
Many of these lugs introduce themselves as part of self-affirmation before they speak, as if their names and residence are questions not statements.
We do not let children vote as they have not the intellect or maturity to grasp and reason issues. In Derry if we had a minimal IQ threshold requirement most of the familiar vocal pundits would have their vote rescinded.
The clash of the 2 town factions has rendered the Council moot and given you "Kevin Coyle Jocksniffers" something to whip like an Army mule.
God help you when Kevin has the fall from grace that is his due. The brown on your noses will give you coat-holders away.
9:13
Skippy, we won the Korean War. It and you with your smarmy reference to Democracy in Derry are completely irrelevant.
Dysfunction is dysfunction.
Derry government has not worked for 25 years by your own admission.
The third path is to fix the problem and render one party of boobs or the other party of older boobs as irrelevant as you.
Anon 9:13 you may be correct on Benson going out as loudly as he came in. Benson has proven himself unfit for public office, But Brian has said on innumerable occasions that he is his last term.
In fact Brian repeated this same conviction and campaign platform plank in one of the papers not so long ago.
Tell them that this IS your last term Brian so your integrity remains intact.
Anon 11:01, WOW!! All at once you managed to sound as bitter as Jack Dowd, as bewildered as Joel Olbrecht, and as dopey as Neil Wetherbee.
All things considered, your screed amounts to an unabashed waste of time. Do you happen to be involved in state or local politics?
Regarding 20/7/09 6:29 PM remarks.
I for one think Brian should keep his eyes on the work he was elected to do and not focus on just how many months he may or many not have. It's a personal decision and I will respect whatever that may be.He has served on many committees and boards and has given many years of service to this town.
By the way....Don't forget to VOTE on August 4th! Be an educated voter. It's ALL our duty.
"that all men are created equal" except those 11:01 considers to be unworthy of public access time or the right to vote. And by the way, I believe all the regular speakers at the Town Council (with the possible exception of some councilors) would pass 11:01's IQ test. You may not agree with them but they are bright. 11:01 you really don't want that metric.
12:18
And I disagree.
Most are not speaking at the Town meeting for the betterment of Derry. They shuffle to the mike to smear, blaspheme of pursue some little political agenda even if it is only some place to go on Tuesday night.
Bright? Al Dimmock, “George” and Maureen Rose bright? Are you for real?
If they were bright they would never approach issues the way they do and would use self modulation to recognize that few are moved by their incessant and shrill opinions. Having the balls to approach the mike and the brains to know what to say and how to say it are independent qualities.
Clearly you either do not know the difference or are so buried in adulation for the “balls” that you have never considered the message and manner.
Fortunately for you and the other low brow sycophants, you are not alone in Derry..
Coyle, Newell, and all of the regressives depend on your lack of judgment on August 4th . I’ll bet you won’t let them down.
YIKES!!! sounds like 1:23 should go on vacation dontcha think???. I here Iran is wonderful this time of year.
LISTEN UP you bitter blunderbuss, your attack has exactly the opposite impact that you half-wittedly intend it to have.
It is you and yours that sound like the shrill, regressive, dopey, good ole boyo sycophants that has seen your power base implode under the weight of decades of poor management that has now nearly bankrupt our community.
YES, i mean bankrupt when you factor in the expenses that are heading down the pike in the next two fiscal years.
The charter election will result in another loss for the old haggered crowd... and you know it. It also means that the famous Derry pol default arguement of lasr resort, "well that's the way we've always done it" will be replaced by those that know how to do it better.
1:23pm: Really?
blaspheme
Verb
[-pheming, -phemed]
1. to speak disrespectfully of (God or sacred things)
2. to utter curses [Greek blasphēmos evil-speaking]
Either
1. You don't know the meaning of words you use.
2. You have been listening to different council meetings than the rest of us.
3. You consider the majority of the council, the DEDC, et al to be god-like.
I'd guess that all the people you list know the meaning of that word. Aspire to their level of skill with the English language. Also, please explain your use of the term "regressive" keeping in mind that bankrupting taxpayers is not progress.
7:53
And another fossil speaks!
Pastor, put down your copy of the Kings James long enough to recognize that many OLD words have NEW meanings in everyday use.
Blaspheme can also mean to speak ill of others. Lots of things have changed since Lindy crossed the pond, Bucko!
Regressive means that you want things to be the same as they were in the past. Unfortunately, the view of Regressives is that they think they can recapture a time gone by and those of us that live in reality know that can’t happen except in old Andy of Mayberry re-runs. Taxes are simply means to the end and should be used wisely and in accordance with a plan to get things accomplished.
Want to see a regressive, Barney Fife? Walk to the bathroom…..turn on the light……
11:38
Bitter Blunderbuss here.
ADT really ran the table didn’t they?
Hope the cookout at Douggys was good.
Seems there was a cookout at Doug's house. Looks like it left both many old time pols and some simply challenged sycophants like Neil and bitter blunderbuss feeling hurt they were not invited.
Well guy;s cheer up!! Maybe you could hit old Jack Dowd up for some Hooksett subs . His specialty is making a turkey of himself.
Now Phyliss may take issue with Jack making the subs because as we all know she has sliced lots of bologna in her day. But how can she complain if Jack offers free delivery? Everyone knows how much Phyliss and her hubbie love free stuff.....like trips and sewer hook-ups.
Good old Bulkley, (not to be confused with the roll) maybe could arrange for some free booze given his job with the liquor department (how did he get that job again?)
Finally maybe you can hit up the good ole hysterical Joel for some comic relief. Always fun when Joel's around, you never know what your going to get....but it is always amusing.
Stir in some Benson, Needham. Stenhouse and company and you'll have an "interesting", albeit boring time.
So there you have it!! The makings of the challenged party's first annual picnic!! What fun!!
2:03
You sir are an idiot.
Stop your focus on the DEDC and Neil Weatherbee. Many of us in town could care less about every name mentioned.
Keep in mind that we were all invited to Mr. Newell's. Why I would want to go to a cookout where everybody has their buried nose in Coyles backside (except to prove to Ms. Hooten that she owed the money and her making a point that "was not about the money" confirms that that is all it was about)?
You seen to be incapable of understanding the word Sycophant!
There is a movement in town to pitch out both sides. Each camp is equally guilty of perpetuating childish bickering over personal issues and vendettas.
This vote was a small litmus test in the fact that having the ADT screwing around in the school budget is unacceptable to the tax payers of Derry.
Our school system is one of our biggest assets. Letting these ADT Yahoos nuke the schools will lead to diminished real estate values in Derry for the benefit of those whose children have grown. Why should they be allowed to do that as they have not “skin in the game” with children in the system?
Oh sure you old fart, you can say that your skin in the game is your tax bill. But the savings that Doug Newell and Howie Lund think they can generate saving toilet paper and pencils will never really materialize.
In the mean time the fossils in town with too much time on their hands and too little to do( like you!) have an even bigger sandbox to make a mess of and argue over.
You Madame are a boob.
You would do well to stop deluding yourself that property values in Derry are being materially enhanced because of the school system.
You madame should learn to pay closer attention to the relative home valuations between Derry and ANY of the surrounding community's. I know the above maybe a complicated analysis for you to process on your own, but maybe one of your Derry educated children can help you out.
This town has been ruined by a ragtag group of self-admiring political n'er do wells who said yes to every request for money from town emplotees for decades and delivered virtually NOTHING from the state to pay for their largess. In return for these votes, these same politicians were kept in place and resuffled over an over again by voting blocks, like the education infrastructure, that has only grown in the face of declining enrollments and mediocre performance.
Do you realize that the Pinkerton tuition is set, actually, "dictated" by Pinkerton after a discussion with our Superintendent? Does that sound like a sound process or just more of the same "that's how we've always done it."
Madame, do us all of us a favor and most importantly yourself, continue along the path you have mindlessly chosen. The community needs reminders just like you of what it is that has hurt us so; and what it is that we need to continue to purge from within our form of government.
12:36
Once again a taxpayer of Derry has voiced that housing values are related to lower taxes not the value of services, infrastructure and quality of life.
When are you going to stop?
As you intend to die in your Barcalounger after a lifetime of Archie Bunker reruns, all you can think of are low taxes. This is the idyllic for Doug Newell, John Burtis and Al Dimmock as well.
For the record I want taxes to be as low as possible. Our union contracts are crazy and the politicians that approved them just as crazy. But if you think housing turnover is based primarily on taxes you are a fool or just transparently self serving.
Newell won’t come clean. Dimmock in his plotzing manner is the only truthful one in town; he wants his tax rate to be what it was in 1980 although his conviction is so adamant I think he really thinks it can happen the poor delusional soul!
To make significant reductions in the tax rate you either have to cut employees, services, infrastructure improvements and any progressive municipal improvements in town. Yet if you have a senior moment and lock yourself out of the house I’ll bet you will expect the fire department to be at your beck and call just like the lady on the Fordway who locked herself out one October night several years ago. She carped for a month after that. If we cut reaction times or eliminate free sand at the transfer station in the winter are you going to be bleating like a lost sheep to the Derry news about how the Town of Derry has lost it’s soul?
This is why the ADT wants to get it’s mitts on the school budget. For them cutting things that they don’t use is the best cut of all! Once mired in the financing of the collective budget the ADT can play the school against the town and vice versa. The old guns or butter scenario will allow “the taxpayer” to make choices not based on what is good for Derry long term but how everyone’s pocketbook feels that day. The bigger the numbers the clearer the choices. That the ADT is not above using people to get their way (Dimmock, Rose) means that old women in town will be eating cat food from a can, living on the street because football team got new uniforms in 2012.
This town has a world class school system that has done great things for my children. When my lifestyle changes and I no longer need a big house I will sell it to someone who wants to live in this area with the benefits of a great school first and will look at the tax rate far down the list.
The decrepit old fossils who are hanging on to a lifestyle they neither need or can afford will continue to be the boil on the backside of progress.
Anon 3:45 there may actually be some hope for you.
You apparently understand the contracts this town has been silently hamstrung by is the product of years of mismanagement, poor judgement, political incompetance and in some cases I suspect outright corruption. It is ironically fortunate that only now, due to topline contraction, it has become apparent to even the most challenged of the, "challenged party" flunkys, how serious the problem has become.
But what did we expect? With each election cycle the candidate name "deja vu" was nothing less than alarming. The same "brain trust" that had perpetrated this heretofore insidious fiscal condition upon the town and its citizens were running over and over, making the same mistakes over and over and being voted in by those that benefited in maintaining the Derry status quo..
But things are changing. I cheerfully observe that recent election results have been very encouraging. Win or lose, I think the Derry voter has finally awakened to this candidate "retread reality" judging by the noticable shift in election results. Our enlightened town electorate simply have to learn who it is that the "challenged party" is supporting and vote accordingly; as happened with the Olbrecht and Herd situation. But I digress.
You also seem to understand that broadly speaking "community service" is an important consideration to any home purchase decision. No argument there. But, not at the expense of affordability.
Here is just a sample of some the waste we PAY for. Millions wasted on 4A, a quarter million wasted to purchase an oil depot.....for an indoor PARKING LOT? And who can forget our outlandish town hall. The waste list goes on,
Vacation time, Pinkerton tuition time, overtime, double overtime, halftime fulltime employee's?!!
Well, for my money IT"S ABOUT TIME that these reality's see the light of day. Those that condoned and or created these wastes will continue to be publically ID'ed and held electorally accountable.
Anon 3:45, don't get me wrong, you are not out of the woods yet, not by a long shot. You still have much work to do. For instance you refer to, free sand?? Someone locked out of their home?? Old men and women eating cat food?? World class school system??? Let me get this straight, you want to be taken seriously?
You really need to take some time to comprehend that every dollar spent on taxes DIRECTLY IMPACTS a homes affordability. Not to tough.
Here it is again, put another way in a nutshell....ready??......
" Derry has the highest taxes in the region.....SOooo ...... DERRY HAS THE LOWEST HOME VALUATIONS IN THE REGION!! Therefore somethings out of whack. Get it???
In conclusion, I think it is YOU 3:45 who needs some time alone to sit in your rocker and TURN OFF THE TV. Take what ever time necessary to critically reassess how supportive some of the nonsense you present is to your argument. Eventually, when things dawn on you, no matter how small, don't hesitate to get back to us with what you figured out. You could become a great role model.
One more thing, for the record, I don't have time to watch much TV. I get out and travel...some would say too much. I am not a aged, nor do I insult those that happen to be, as you seem very comfortable in doing.
"a world class school system ..."??? your basis for this assertion? NECAP??? No Child...tests??? An opinion you pulled out of the air (or somewhere else)? I haven't seen the Ivies lining up to recruit our little darlings. When you just make stuff up it doesn't move the discussion forward.
12:07 The Concorde must have landed or you are on your lunch hour writing this. Let me attempt to rebutt your arguements although you are so smart that my time will be wasted!
You write:
For instance you refer to, free sand?? Someone locked out of their home?? Old men and women eating cat food?? World class school system??? Let me get this straight, you want to be taken seriously?
I say Yes!
World Class if the intellect of the family is such that they recognize that schools are not daytime child warehouses. (someone should do a study regarding the class rank of students in Hempstead and Chester at Pinkerton. You would see how great the school system when you subtract the dolts.)
Furthermore:
I know that you have no memory left, it happens to retirees but the sand and the lock out were BIG stories in the local paper. Musta been traveling those days?
You wrote:
You really need to take some time to comprehend that every dollar spent on taxes DIRECTLY IMPACTS a homes affordability. Not to tough.
I respond:
First TOO is spelled with 2 "O's" Einstein.
Your assertion is a complete myth using both federal and state government statistics.
Once again we face the sound of a Derry "talking butthole" where fiction becomes fact.
Home values are based on a consumers willingness to buy. Time and time again people buy where the quality of life is the best they can afford.
Where would you rather live?Lawrence or Wellesley. Or Mr. World Traveler, Tottenham or Mayfair in London? Which has the best tax rate vs lifestyle offered ratio?
You continue:
Here it is again, put another way in a nutshell....ready??......
" Derry has the highest taxes in the region.....SOooo ...... DERRY HAS THE LOWEST HOME VALUATIONS IN THE REGION!! Therefore somethings out of whack. Get it???
No I do not get it because you are wrong Professor Wizard. In fact better quality of life creates higher valuations which lead to less social issues and better bang for tax buck.
It is Ok 12:07. You just hunker down in the root cellar in between trips, smoke you low tax smokes and eat beans out of the can while Derry becomes the "Lawrence of NH." All in the name of lowering taxes. BTW how's your Spanish?
Let's see 12:25... you were really on a roll there. I am arrogant but I can't hold a candle to you.
"Dolts"? Sorry but those with lower IQs are still part of our community, deserve appropriate educations and should not be degraded by the likes of you.
We are all still waiting for your proof of "World Class School System". I suspect we have a long wait.
By the way you write like you are on speed, do we need to do an intervention?
Yes, Derry is in danger of becoming more like Lawrence but it has nothing to do with Hispanics. (Nice slur though, we can tell you are so open to ethnic minorities in the community.) Those who can will leave (as they do now after their kids leave Pinkerton). We work too hard for our money to watch your friends flush it down Exit 4A and all their other great ideas.
Please speak out more often. Your (many) words speak volumes about your character.
Great rebuttal 7:43
So let me get everything straight:
• Yes Derry is going to morph into Lawrence and to you, that’s OK
• More affluent, educated and mobile residents whose children are through the school system will flee town and that's ok
• I’m a racist because I won’t live in a town like Lawrence and after morons like you and you back to the bomb cellar dwellers cut off all progressive activity in the interest of “Saving your way to prosperity” Shaw’s will be doing their windows in English and Spanish to make thing better for the majority of inhabitants
• You did not mention your house value when crime spikes and the school is jam-packed with English as a second language students. Be raking in your savings then will you?
• Of course Parkland will have to extend the emergency room to provide healthcare for the locals unless the “Public Option” passes
• Al Dimmock can be the poster boy for “those with lower IQs are still part of our community, deserve appropriate educations and should not be degraded by the likes of you” OOOH I just love that type of political correctness talk.
• Exit 4A the symbol of the DEDC, Jack Dowd, ‘the old guard’, progress will be stricken from memory. The first major revision since Rt.93 was appropriated and built in the Kennedy administration will pass Derry by. But that is ok because the exodus from Lawrence to Derry will come up 28 right?
Without outing my children, Derry provided a world class education to my family at a nominal, tax deductible cost. Does the term "New Ivies" mean anything to you? Probably not Dummy. (or should I say Dolt)
Your thinking, or lack of same, will tear down the nature of this town so much quicker that the time it took to create it. That you and your regressive knuckledraggers like Doug Newell believe that derry can go backwards on the progress scale is just foolish. That you think everything will revert to the good olde days is so ridiculous.
“Pave paradise and put up a parking lot” used to be the old refrain. Keep in mind that let that parking lot lie fallow and you get weeds.....not paradise.
My advise: ¡los indios están viniendo! ¡Un mejor círculo los carros!
Brian,
You risk leaving a legacy on this blog that you are going to be leaving in the wake of your time on the Town Council, incomplete.
Downtown has vacant stores again. Vacancy leads to blight.
This blog has been vacant all summer except when you had your own personal agenda to advance.
Turn this over to someone who cares.
No, 10:48 you did not get everything straight. Not even close.
"• Derry is going to morph into Lawrence and to you, that’s OK"...
7:43 did not say that it’s ok with him/her.
• "More affluent, educated and mobile residents whose children are through the school system will flee town and that's ok" That is already happening but 7:43 did not say that it’s ok with him/her.
• "I’m a racist because I won’t live in a town like Lawrence and after morons like you and you back to the bomb cellar dwellers cut off all progressive activity"...
7:43 did not call you a racist (but other readers may judge that for themselves). "back to the bomb cellar dwellers" Could you explain this phrase? Seems like a quaint 1950's leftist slogan for people who feared the Soviet Union but I'm not sure.
How do you know 7:43 is a moron? Might he or she be more intelligent and better educated that you?
Regarding the influx of Hispanics, you might want to read Thomas Sowell's book "Migrations and Cultures: A World View." We've seen this movie before with each wave of migration; for example when your ancestors arrived, much to the dismay of the existing inhabitants.
Regarding your personal attack on Mr. Dimmock, I know him to be an intelligent man of character. He's not a man who would degrade half the community as "dolts" based upon IQ tests and I have never heard him attack any ethnic group.
You said "Without outing my children, Derry provided a world class education to my family at a nominal, tax deductible cost. Does the term "New Ivies" mean anything to you? Probably not Dummy. (or should I say Dolt)"
We still await your proof of the world class education claim. The fact that you children have done better than you have may only speak to the low bar that you have set.
All your talk of "progressives" and "regressive" makes you sound like a 1930's leftist. Papa Joe Stalin is dead. Get over it. (Although the last time I was in Moscow I saw idiots holding up his picture and celebrating his birthday).
Here's the news: progress is not measured by the growth of the government or increases in taxes. It comes from free people living in liberty freely exchanging the products of their work and their intellects.
10:48 it's 7:43 here. I don't suppose that you find it deeply ironic that in your little Spanish lesson "The Indians are coming, circle the wagons" you describe an attack (by people who were here first) upon newer immigrants? I couldn't have said it better myself.
Your kids got into "New Ivies"? Time to rethink Darwin?
12:07 does 7:43 sit on your lap and talk while you drink a glass of water?
Ron Paul lost guys! Roll your Libertarian carcasses back into the closet.
Although I rarely discuss my political leanings, I will to you since you are so far off the mark: I am a middle-aged conservative Republican. I do not believe that working toward progressiveness (which you obscenely equate to liberalism: tax and spend) is contrary strict fiscal policy. I run my businesses very tight yet we transform ourselves continually.
Derry needs to coalesce around a common vision of what this town will be in the future. Londonderry has managed this process 100% better than Derry over the last several years. Derry has mired itself in infighting.
The “bomb cellar” analogy is one representing a huge segment of the town that wants to go back in time, recapture the past, close down all progress and save our way into the future. 12:07 wrote: Here's the news: progress is not measured by the growth of the government or increases in taxes. It comes from free people living in liberty freely exchanging the products of their work and their intellects.
The lack of leadership this town has experienced over the past 10-15 years has allowed your : “free people living in liberty freely exchanging the products of their work and their intellects.” Where has that gotten us? It appears that the most vocal members of Derry are those that want to go backwards, not forward.
I’m sorry but your assessment of Al is flawed. I am sure he is a swell guy but he is the embodiment of the intellectual waste-land he professes to represent. Return to his tax bill of 1981? How can you take him serious?
He is representative of many like- minded retirees with too much time on their hands, participating in the blood-sport Derry politics has become. Combined with the hacks that cater to these vocal minority ( Burtis, Coyle, Newell, Fairbanks and others) due to election calculus, Derry has created the perfect recipe for disaster.
What I know from my frequent travels around the world is that Derry cannot save our way to success. Lifestyle will erode, the economically mobile will move on, values will decline fueling a rapid downward spiral. “Lawrence-ization” is Derry fate.
Holding the mirror to your faces isnot an “Ethnic Attack” as you have accused. It is an early warning of an “Economic Attack.”
7:43 before you get all excited about giving the Americas back to the native population you might want to research a country and region that have tried that. Hasn’t worked out well for Western Australia (although I love walking through the airport barefoot as shirts and shoes are no longer required in any public place).
I am concerned with:
A. Quality of life
B. Mobility based on housing values
What are your guys concerned with besides cutting taxes?
10:22 "What we have here is a failure to communicate." I do not recall, (and this blog will document) that I never favored returning the country to it's original inhabitants (especially since some findings are indicating that they were wiped out by later waves of immigants from Asia).
"Derry needs to coalesce around a common vision of what this town will be in the future." Why? Der folk need to form a bund? Warum?
Seriously, I thank you for providing a complete explanation of the current state of the Republican Party. Warm, tolerant, visionary. Are you the same 10:48 we have all grown to know? You didn't call anyone names in this most recent posting. Are the meds kicking in?
7:12
Have 10:22's response read to you again. Get the appropriate reference to Charlie McCarthy and Edgar Bergen? I am not 10:48 and don’t know whether 10:22 is, but his/her writing continually goes over your head! Kind of funny actually.
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